
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

Jan 23, 2025
Jan 23, 2025
39 min
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome the leaders of Getem Services, a 103-year-old, fourth-generation family pest control business. Charlie Church, owner and president, and his children Chaz Church, VP of operations, and Carley Church, marketing and HR manager, discuss how they're working toward a smooth transition to the next generation of ownership.

Jan 16, 2025
Jan 16, 2025
38 min
On this week's episode, Donnie and Dan discuss the importance of long-term exit planning for your company. They cover common exit strategies for pest and lawn care business owners and emphasize the need for clear financial goals and contingency plans in case of unexpected events.

Jan 9, 2025
Jan 9, 2025
46 min

Jan 2, 2025
Jan 2, 2025
43 min
Coalmarch's Alex Booth joins the show this week to discuss changes in marketing trends for 2025, including competition, AI and more. They cover strategies for optimizing for AI search, how Alex would spend a $100,000 marketing budget and the importance of knowing your company's strengths.

Dec 19, 2024
Dec 19, 2024
35 min
This week, Dan and Donnie welcome Sellify AI Founder Thomas Lundberg to the show to discuss the benefits of selling pest control with AI via text message. They cover his background in the industry, growth potential and use cases for the product, including upselling, cross-selling, setting appointments and winbacks.

Dec 12, 2024
Dec 12, 2024
47 min
In this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Emily Thomas Kendrick and Tim Pollard of Arrow Exterminators back to the show. They discuss their approach to keeping a small company feel even as they exceed $400 million in revenue, why and how they choose an annual theme and what's in their growth plans for 2025 and beyond.

Dec 5, 2024
Dec 5, 2024
37 min

Nov 21, 2024
Nov 21, 2024
37 min
Coalmarch's Derek Cummings joins the show to discuss the changing search landscape and its effect on pest and lawn marketing strategies. He covers the increasing integration of AI in search engines, a rise in search on social media directly and how not to get overwhelmed about being 'everywhere.'

Nov 14, 2024
Nov 14, 2024
39 min
This week, Dan and Donnie are breaking down the outcome of the 2024 election. They analyze how the results will affect the pest and lawn industries in key areas, including taxes, labor and inflation, and they emphasize the importance of focusing on business fundamentals.

Nov 7, 2024
Nov 7, 2024
43 min
PestSure's COO Todd Burke & Board Chairman Mike Rottler, CEO of Rottler Pest Solutions in St. Louis, join the show to talk about a hot topic in the insurance market: auto insurance claims. They discuss how to think about insurance as a PMP, why auto settlements are increasing and practical things you can do to avoid a so-called 'nuclear verdict.'
Guests: Todd Burke, COO & Mike Rottler, Board Chairman, PestSure
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Oct 31, 2024
Oct 31, 2024
41 min
This week Dan and Donnie celebrate and reflect on more than four years and 200 episodes of the podcast! They cover how the podcast got started; their favorite guests, shows and topics; and the lessons they've learned from the show and implemented in their own businesses.

Oct 24, 2024
Oct 24, 2024
45 min
On this episode, Donnie and Dan discuss the intricacies of the due diligence process in pest and lawn mergers and acquisitions. They explore the perspectives of both buyers and sellers and review the three major work streams in due diligence: legal, operational and financial.

Oct 17, 2024
Oct 17, 2024
44 min
On this episode, Donnie and Dan walk through answers to recent questions they've received from podcast listeners. Topics include tracking your critical number, how to develop your leadership skills, the best business advice they've ever received, customer service training and more.

Oct 10, 2024
Oct 10, 2024
40 min

Oct 3, 2024
Oct 3, 2024
39 min
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Steve Durham, former owner of EnviroCon Pest in Tomball, Texas. He explains how he successfully transformed his company by moving to a recurring revenue model. Steve talks about the discipline required to get away from one-time work, move to auto billing, transition to triennial service — and ultimately exit.

Sep 26, 2024
Sep 26, 2024
29 min
