
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

Feb 27, 2025
Feb 27, 2025
41 min
The Bugman's Brian Olson joins Dan and Donnie to share how he turned around his Top 100 pest control business after struggling to achieve growth and profit goals. He shares the lessons he's learned by getting laser focused on KPIs in pursuit of becoming a customer- and team-centric firm with 80 percent recurring revenue.

Feb 20, 2025
Feb 20, 2025
41 min

Feb 13, 2025
Feb 13, 2025
38 min
This week, Dan shares his observations from WorkWave's Beyond Service user conference, which took place earlier this month. He covers can't-ignore topics from the event, including the ubiquity of artificial intelligence tools, an increased focus on key performance indicators and the mark private equity investors are making on the pest and lawn industries.

Feb 6, 2025
Feb 6, 2025
43 min
Industry veteran Patrick Quigley is back on the podcast to discuss how to prepare for the busy pest control season now. He shares a 7-point plan to overcome common challenges and set your team up for success.

Feb 3, 2025
Feb 3, 2025
16 min
Welcome to Insiders Rewind, the brand-new monthly recap series from the PMP Industry Insider Podcast! In this episode, Brett The Editor, takes you through the most impactful moments from January’s episodes.
Episodes Featured:
207: 2025 Marketing Trend Shifts w/Alex Booth
208: Recapping 2024 & Forecasting 2025 w/Dan and Donnie
209: The Long Game: Mastering Exit Planning w/Dan and Donnie
210: Passing the Torch Part 1 w/Charlie, Chaz & Carley Church
211: Passing the Torch Part 2 w/Howard and Conner Bright
Whether you're in the pest & lawn industry or a business leader looking for growth strategies, Insiders Rewind delivers key insights you can implement right away!

Jan 30, 2025
Jan 30, 2025
33 min
This week, Anti-Pesto's Howard Bright and Conner Bright join the show to discuss how they are transitioning the company to the next generation of leadership. They talk about the challenges and opportunities presented by the succession process with a focus on the importance of relationships, learning from others and transparency.

Jan 23, 2025
Jan 23, 2025
39 min
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome the leaders of Getem Services, a 103-year-old, fourth-generation family pest control business. Charlie Church, owner and president, and his children Chaz Church, VP of operations, and Carley Church, marketing and HR manager, discuss how they're working toward a smooth transition to the next generation of ownership.

Jan 16, 2025
Jan 16, 2025
38 min
On this week's episode, Donnie and Dan discuss the importance of long-term exit planning for your company. They cover common exit strategies for pest and lawn care business owners and emphasize the need for clear financial goals and contingency plans in case of unexpected events.

Jan 9, 2025
Jan 9, 2025
46 min

Jan 2, 2025
Jan 2, 2025
43 min
Coalmarch's Alex Booth joins the show this week to discuss changes in marketing trends for 2025, including competition, AI and more. They cover strategies for optimizing for AI search, how Alex would spend a $100,000 marketing budget and the importance of knowing your company's strengths.

Dec 19, 2024
Dec 19, 2024
35 min
This week, Dan and Donnie welcome Sellify AI Founder Thomas Lundberg to the show to discuss the benefits of selling pest control with AI via text message. They cover his background in the industry, growth potential and use cases for the product, including upselling, cross-selling, setting appointments and winbacks.

Dec 12, 2024
Dec 12, 2024
47 min
In this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Emily Thomas Kendrick and Tim Pollard of Arrow Exterminators back to the show. They discuss their approach to keeping a small company feel even as they exceed $400 million in revenue, why and how they choose an annual theme and what's in their growth plans for 2025 and beyond.

Dec 5, 2024
Dec 5, 2024
37 min

Nov 21, 2024
Nov 21, 2024
37 min
Coalmarch's Derek Cummings joins the show to discuss the changing search landscape and its effect on pest and lawn marketing strategies. He covers the increasing integration of AI in search engines, a rise in search on social media directly and how not to get overwhelmed about being 'everywhere.'

Nov 14, 2024
Nov 14, 2024
39 min
This week, Dan and Donnie are breaking down the outcome of the 2024 election. They analyze how the results will affect the pest and lawn industries in key areas, including taxes, labor and inflation, and they emphasize the importance of focusing on business fundamentals.

Nov 7, 2024
Nov 7, 2024
43 min
PestSure's COO Todd Burke & Board Chairman Mike Rottler, CEO of Rottler Pest Solutions in St. Louis, join the show to talk about a hot topic in the insurance market: auto insurance claims. They discuss how to think about insurance as a PMP, why auto settlements are increasing and practical things you can do to avoid a so-called 'nuclear verdict.'
Guests: Todd Burke, COO & Mike Rottler, Board Chairman, PestSure
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