
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

30 minutes ago
30 minutes ago
44 min
In this episode, HR expert Jean Seawright joins Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon to break down the biggest employment issues affecting pest control companies today.
Jean explains what the FTC's recent action against Rollins means for non-compete agreements and why now is the time to review your employment contracts. She also covers the evolving workplace implications of medical marijuana, what employers need to know about reasonable accommodations, and why documenting impairment—not assumptions—has become increasingly important. Finally, Jean shares the latest guidance on independent contractor classification and an important warning about new I-9 enforcement standards.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/

Jul 9, 2026
Jul 9, 2026
48 min
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jul 6, 2026
Top Takeaways From June | Insiders Rewind
Jul 6, 2026
Jul 6, 2026
13 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping June.
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 277 - What's happening with Rollins & What It Means for Pest Control M&A
Ep. 278 - Gamifying Growth: Using Data to Help Your Team Perform
Ep. 279 - The New Rules of Pest Control Growth with Jonas Olson
Ep. 280 - Avoid These Hidden Risks in Pest Control
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Insiders Conference: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/conference
Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.

Jun 25, 2026
Jun 25, 2026
41 min
Guests: Todd Burke, COO & Kristina Phillips, VP & Director of Client Services, PestSure
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

Jun 18, 2026
Jun 18, 2026
36 min
Guest: Jonas Olson, Co-Founder, Pest Control Millionaires & CEO, Pest Badger
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

Jun 11, 2026
Jun 11, 2026
35 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

Jun 4, 2026
Jun 4, 2026
31 min
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

Jun 1, 2026
Top Takeaways From May | Insiders Rewind
Jun 1, 2026
Jun 1, 2026
14 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping May.
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 273 - Answering the Call: When & How to Deploy AI Voice In Your Business
Ep. 274 - Brace for Impact: Economic Signals Pest & Lawn Owners Should Watch
Ep. 275 - Streamlining the Pest Control Sales Process
Ep. 276 - CEO Perspective: Next-Gen Leadership at Epcon Lane
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists:
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services:
https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.

May 28, 2026
May 28, 2026
31 min
In this episode of the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast, Dan and Donnie interview Kacey Wyman, CEO of Epcon Lane Pest Control, a fourth-generation family business. They discuss her transition to CEO, her involvement in NPMA leadership, and what it takes to create a self-sustaining business while maintaining 90 percent recurring revenue. She also shares details about the company's nonprofit initiative supporting children with cancer and their families through Akron Children's Hospital.
Guest: Kacey Wyman, CEO, Epcon Lane Pest Control
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

May 21, 2026
May 21, 2026
40 min
This week, SmarterLauch Co-Founders Eric Fletcher & Cody Smith join Dan and Donnie on the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast. They walk through the development of their proposal software, how it works and the ROI pest control companies typically see when they use it. Donnie also shares Triangle Pest Control's experience with SmarterLauch.
Guests: Eric Fletcher & Cody Smith, Co-Founders, SmarterLaunch
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

May 14, 2026
May 14, 2026
37 min
Economist, author and Forbes contributor Bill Conerly, Ph.D., join Dan and Donnie this week on the PMP Industry Insiders Podcast. Bill discussed the potential for a global recession related to the war in Iran, changing labor market dynamics, AI's impact and more. He closed with advice for a simple approach to contingency planning in your business.
Guest: Bill Conerly, Ph.D., Economist, Author & Consultant
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

May 7, 2026
May 7, 2026
40 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
Sponsors:
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups:
https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups

May 4, 2026
Top Takeaways from April | Insiders Rewind
May 4, 2026
May 4, 2026
18 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping April.
This month, we are looking back to:
Ep. 268 - After the Exit: How to Keep More of What You’ve Built
Ep. 269 - Q1 Wrap: A Cooling Economy or Just a Cold Winter?
Ep. 270 - Reactive to Proactive: Rethinking Driver Safety in Pest & Lawn
Ep. 271 - How to Build Strong Mid-Level Management in Pest Control
Ep. 272 - Scale Smarter with ROI-Driven Marketing in Pest & Lawn
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast
PestSure: https://www.pestsure.com/
Voice for Pest: https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast
Forshaw: https://www.forshaw.com/
Peer Groups: https://www.pmpindustryinsider.com/peergroups
Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists: https://pcobookkeepers.com/
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services: https://trianglehomeservices.com/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsiders.

Apr 30, 2026
Apr 30, 2026
37 min

Apr 23, 2026
Apr 23, 2026
38 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Apr 16, 2026
Apr 16, 2026
34 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
