
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
Jeremy Ecker, CEO of Rest Easy Pest Control, joins the podcast to discuss his experience doing 16 M&A deals over 13 years, mostly self-funded and structured with earn-outs. Jeremy shares how he started as a bed bug canine inspection company and eventually pivoted to full-service pest control, and he details the challenges and opportunities of both acquisitions and organic growth.
Guest: Jeremy Ecker, CEO of Rest Easy Pest Control
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Episode 251: When AI Picks the Pest or Lawn Company: What Businesses Must Know
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Episode 250: Reflections on PestWorld & 250 Episodes!
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
This week, Dan and Donnie reflect on PestWorld 2025 and the podcast's 250th episode. They cover the buzz around the show in Orlando, including a rant about vendors who don't support the industry. They also reminisce about why they started the podcast and how it's evolved over five years — and thank their sponsors, guests and listeners for all the support.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Top Takeaways from October | Insiders Rewind
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping September!
Episodes from October: Ep. 245 - Building Business, Industry & Community with Audrey Hall
✅Ep. 246 - Empowering Pest Techs with Automated, Real-Time Data
✅Ep. 247 - Unlocking Profit with Tiered Pricing for Pest Control
✅Ep. 248 - Why M&A Isn't Just for the Big Guys
✅Ep. 249 - New Pest Control Industry Cost Study Data Revealed
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
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PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Thursday Oct 30, 2025
Episode 249 - New Pest Control Industry Cost Study Data Revealed
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
Thursday Oct 30, 2025
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Oct 23, 2025
Episode 248: Why M&A Isn’t Just for the Big Guys
Thursday Oct 23, 2025
Thursday Oct 23, 2025
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Episode 247: Unlocking Profit with Tiered Pricing for Pest Control
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
This week, Dan and Donnie highlight the concept of tiered pricing and its psychological impact on customer decisions. They explain price anchoring, the decoy effect and how tiered pricing can help customers overcome analysis paralysis and guide them toward the most profitable option. Tune in to learn how to use these strategies in your pest or lawn business.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Episode 246: Empowering Pest Techs with Automated, Real-Time Data
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Monday Oct 06, 2025
Top Takeaways from September | Insiders Rewind
Monday Oct 06, 2025
Monday Oct 06, 2025
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping September!
✅ Episodes from August:
Ep. 241 - Getting People Decisions Right
Ep. 242 - Go Big & Simplify: Lessons From Big Blue Bug
Ep. 243 - How to Build a Successful Sales Machine
Ep. 244 - Budgeting Breakdown: What Pest & Lawn Pros Should Spend on What A
HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Episode 245: Building Business, Industry & Community with Audrey Hall
Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Thursday Oct 02, 2025
This week Dan and Donnie host Audrey Hall, president of Eco Serve Pest in New York, who discussed her journey from growing up in the pest control industry to turning a small operation into a thriving company with 27 employees. She shares her development as an entrepreneur, the company's expansion plans and her philosophy for community giving.
Guest: Audrey Hall, President, Eco Serve Pest Services
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Sep 25, 2025
Episode 244: Budgeting Breakdown: What Pest & Lawn Pros Should Spend On What
Thursday Sep 25, 2025
Thursday Sep 25, 2025
On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss the budgeting process from both a strategic and practical standpoint. They discuss how to get started if you're not already following a budget and which key performance indicators are most important to strong financial performance.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Sep 18, 2025
Episode 243: How to Build a Successful Sales Machine
Thursday Sep 18, 2025
Thursday Sep 18, 2025
Pest-End COO Courtney Carace joins Dan and Donnie this week to share her company's experience growing from $6.5 million in 2020 to around $15 million today. Courtney shares the structure and philosophy she and her team are employing in pursuit of reaching $30 million by 2030.
Guest: Courtney Carace, COO, Pest-End
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Episode 242: Go Big & Simplify: Lessons from Big Blue Bug
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Big Blue Bug Solutions CEO Brian Goldman joins Dan and Donnie to share insights on building a unique brand by being bold, proactive and unafraid to stand out and embrace change. He also discusses the benefits of simplifying operations by focusing on core competencies versus diversifying into other service lines.
Guest: Brian Goldman, CEO, Big Blue Bug Solutions
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Episode 241: Getting People Decisions Right
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Thursday Sep 04, 2025
Effectively managing people is essential when scaling a pest or lawn business. In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss how to align values, instill accountability and evaluate employees' understanding, motivation and capacity to perform their roles.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Monday Sep 01, 2025
Top Takeaways from August | Insiders Rewind
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping August!
✅ Episodes from August:
Ep. 237 - Turnaround Tactics: Fix Your Team's Deadline Problems for Good
Ep. 238 - Insider Look: A PMP Shares His Journey to $3M & Peer Group Takeaways
Ep. 239 - Culture, Legacy & Leadership at Sherrill Pest Control
Ep. 240 - Return on Motivation (Just When You Thought You Had Enough MBA Buzzwords)
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you.
Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Thursday Aug 28, 2025
Thursday Aug 28, 2025
This week, Dan and Donnie explore the concept of "Return on Motivation" and its importance in business, discussing how leadership and team commitment impact employee performance and company culture. They share personal experiences and insights about creating motivated teams, measuring the impact of motivational efforts and the role of clear communication and recognition in employee engagement.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
