
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

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What if you had a CSR who could answer after-hours calls, schedule service and respond to questions 24/7/365? On this episode, Ka Tsu of Avoca AI joins Dan and Donnie to discuss an AI call center and customer service platform. Tune in to hear a Q&A about the benefits and challenges of implementing AI CSRs in pest control.

Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Episode 221: Tariff-Proof Your Pest Business: What To Do Right Now
Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Tuesday Apr 08, 2025

Monday Apr 07, 2025
Top Takeaways From March's PMP Industry Insider Podcast | Insiders Rewind
Monday Apr 07, 2025
Monday Apr 07, 2025
Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping March!
This month, we’re diving into insights from Episodes 216 to 219, covering everything from Agent AI to tax strategies, growth challenges, and flipping business models for success!
Ep. 216: Agent AI Playbook for Service Business Owners — Discover how Agent AI works autonomously and integrates with your systems for true automation.
Ep. 217: Taxes 101 — Dan and Donnie share tax tips and how to avoid common pitfalls for pest and lawn business owners.
Ep. 218: The GreenPal Story — Brian Clayton explains why he built GreenPal for lawn care pros, not homeowners, and why it worked!
Ep. 219: Creating Cohesion — Donnie talks about managing team growth and navigating when great employees can’t keep up.
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Thursday Apr 03, 2025
Episode 220: Why Accurate Reports + Actionable Data = Success
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
Thursday Apr 03, 2025
In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss what you need to do month in and month out to create accurate financial statements so you can take meaningful action in your business. Donnie offers a glimpse into the numbers he uses to run Triangle Pest Control, and Dan shares an accountant's perspective and tools he recommends.

Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Episode 219: Creating Cohesion: The Power of a Singular Vision
Thursday Mar 27, 2025
Thursday Mar 27, 2025
In this episode, Dan and Donnie dig into the challenges of managing growth and keeping your team on the same page as your pest or lawn company scales and becomes more complicated. They share their experiences and strategies for overcoming growth-related obstacles, and why having a strong vision is essential.

Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Episode 218: Evolving With Your Business: An Entrepreneur's Journey
Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Thursday Mar 20, 2025

Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Episode 217: Taxes 101: Make Better Decisions & Save Money
Thursday Mar 13, 2025
Thursday Mar 13, 2025

Thursday Mar 06, 2025
Thursday Mar 06, 2025
What if you could eliminate all your repetitive administrative tasks? In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss the potential for leveraging "agent AI" technology in your pest control business. Donnie also walks through a software demo and shares how to begin creating an AI personal assistant so you can make better use of your time.

Monday Mar 03, 2025
Insiders Rewind: Top Insights and Takeaways From February
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Welcome to Insiders Rewind, the new monthly recap series from the PMP Industry insider Podcast! In this episode, Brett The Editor, takes you through the most impactful moments from February's episodes.
Ep. #212 - A 7 Point Plan To Get Ready For The Season
Ep. #213 - 3 Takeaways From Beyond Service
Ep. #214 - 4 Pest Industry Trends For 2025
Ep. #215 - A Top 100 Turnaround
Whether you're in the pest & lawn industry or a business leader looking for growth strategies, Insiders Rewind delivers key insights you can implement right away!

Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Episode 215: A Top 100 Turnaround: The Bugman's Brian Olson Returns
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
The Bugman's Brian Olson joins Dan and Donnie to share how he turned around his Top 100 pest control business after struggling to achieve growth and profit goals. He shares the lessons he's learned by getting laser focused on KPIs in pursuit of becoming a customer- and team-centric firm with 80 percent recurring revenue.

Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Episode 214: 4 Pest Industry Trends for 2025
Thursday Feb 20, 2025
Thursday Feb 20, 2025

Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Episode 213: 3 Takeaways from Beyond Service
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
Thursday Feb 13, 2025
This week, Dan shares his observations from WorkWave's Beyond Service user conference, which took place earlier this month. He covers can't-ignore topics from the event, including the ubiquity of artificial intelligence tools, an increased focus on key performance indicators and the mark private equity investors are making on the pest and lawn industries.

Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Episode 212: A 7-Point Plan to Get Ready for the Season
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Industry veteran Patrick Quigley is back on the podcast to discuss how to prepare for the busy pest control season now. He shares a 7-point plan to overcome common challenges and set your team up for success.

Monday Feb 03, 2025
Insiders Rewind: Top Insights and Takeaways from January
Monday Feb 03, 2025
Monday Feb 03, 2025
Welcome to Insiders Rewind, the brand-new monthly recap series from the PMP Industry Insider Podcast! In this episode, Brett The Editor, takes you through the most impactful moments from January’s episodes.
Episodes Featured:
207: 2025 Marketing Trend Shifts w/Alex Booth
208: Recapping 2024 & Forecasting 2025 w/Dan and Donnie
209: The Long Game: Mastering Exit Planning w/Dan and Donnie
210: Passing the Torch Part 1 w/Charlie, Chaz & Carley Church
211: Passing the Torch Part 2 w/Howard and Conner Bright
Whether you're in the pest & lawn industry or a business leader looking for growth strategies, Insiders Rewind delivers key insights you can implement right away!

Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Episode 211: Passing the Torch: Part 2
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
Thursday Jan 30, 2025
This week, Anti-Pesto's Howard Bright and Conner Bright join the show to discuss how they are transitioning the company to the next generation of leadership. They talk about the challenges and opportunities presented by the succession process with a focus on the importance of relationships, learning from others and transparency.

Thursday Jan 23, 2025
Episode 210: Passing the Torch: Part 1
Thursday Jan 23, 2025
Thursday Jan 23, 2025
On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome the leaders of Getem Services, a 103-year-old, fourth-generation family pest control business. Charlie Church, owner and president, and his children Chaz Church, VP of operations, and Carley Church, marketing and HR manager, discuss how they're working toward a smooth transition to the next generation of ownership.