
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

Mar 5, 2026
Mar 5, 2026
42 min
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Mar 3, 2026
Mar 3, 2026
13 min
Welcome to Insiders Rewind - Recapping February
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PestSure - Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
Forshaw - A third-generation, family-owned national distributor serving the pest management and wildlife control industry across the United States. They offer over 2,000 products, fast delivery, exceptional customer service, and innovative tools to help pest pros succeed!
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Feb 26, 2026
Feb 26, 2026
38 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 19, 2026
Feb 19, 2026
36 min
This week, My Pest Pros Co-Owner Brett Lieberman joins Dan and Donnie to share his company's real-world experiences with AI implementation. He discusses his firm's AI voice agent that books jobs and handles customer inquiries, what he learned from analyzing 1.3 million lines of call transcripts and how he created an AI board of directors to provide feedback on business decisions.
Guest: Brett Lieberman, Co-Owner, My Pest Pros
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 12, 2026
Feb 12, 2026
46 min
This week, Dan & Donnie welcome Mark Ruff, a pest industry attorney with MHR Law, to the podcast. They discuss a recent incident in Florida, where officials shut down an illegal door-to-door pest control sales operation and issued a $36,000 fine. Mark discussed how two firms violated Florida regulations, while Dan & Donnie explored the implications of this case for the industry nationwide.
Guest: Mark Ruff, Attorney, MHR Law
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 5, 2026
Feb 5, 2026
37 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 2, 2026
Feb 2, 2026
13 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping January!
Episodes from December:
✅ Ep. 256 - 2026 Pest Control Reality Check
✅ Ep. 257 - I Sold My Business, Now What?
✅ Ep. 258 - The King Green Journey: Growth, Family & Private Equity
✅ Ep. 259 - How to Reach Your Next Million
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
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Jan 29, 2026
Jan 29, 2026
42 min
This week, in Part 1 of 2 with Pest Control Business Coach, Sheri Spencer Bachman joins Dan and Donnie to discuss achieving your next million dollars in revenue. She covers the challenges firms face at key milestones, including making your first hire, defining your culture and core values and establishing systems and processes to break through to the next level.
Guest: Sheri Spencer Bachman, Pest Control Business Coach
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 22, 2026
Jan 22, 2026
36 min
Charlie King joins the podcast to discuss his experience building and eventually selling his lawn care company, King Green, to private equity firm Plexus in 2025. He shares challenges and lessons learned throughout his career and the exit process, including working with family, structuring the business, the decision to sell and building a brand.
Guest: Charlie King, Founder of King Green
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 15, 2026
Jan 15, 2026
40 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 8, 2026
Jan 8, 2026
38 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 5, 2026
Jan 5, 2026
14 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind —
Recapping November! Episodes from December:
✅ Ep. 253 - X-RAI Call Analytics Dashboard - Explained
✅ Ep. 254 - Safety Training That Actually Works
✅ Ep. 255 - AI's Impact on Pest & Lawn Marketing
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Dec 18, 2025
Dec 18, 2025
44 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Dec 11, 2025
Dec 11, 2025
40 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Dec 8, 2025
Dec 8, 2025
10 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping November!
Episodes from October:
✅ Ep. 250 - Reflections on PestWorld & 250 Episodes
✅ Ep. 251 - When AI Picks the Pest or Lawn Company
✅ Ep. 252 - Why M&A Isn't Just For The Big Guys: Part 2
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Dec 4, 2025
Dec 4, 2025
37 min
This week, Voice for Pest's Raymond Kidwell joins Dan and Donnie to discuss X-Rai, a call analytics dashboard for pest control and lawn care businesses. He explains how the platform uses AI to prioritize leads and manage customer interactions based on data from more than 1 million calls per month, and he details its approach to AI agents.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
