
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

Feb 12, 2026
Feb 12, 2026
46 min
This week, Dan & Donnie welcome Mark Ruff, a pest industry attorney with MHR Law, to the podcast. They discuss a recent incident in Florida, where officials shut down an illegal door-to-door pest control sales operation and issued a $36,000 fine. Mark discussed how two firms violated Florida regulations, while Dan & Donnie explored the implications of this case for the industry nationwide.
Guest: Mark Ruff, Attorney, MHR Law
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 5, 2026
Feb 5, 2026
37 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Feb 2, 2026
Feb 2, 2026
13 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping January!
Episodes from December:
✅ Ep. 256 - 2026 Pest Control Reality Check
✅ Ep. 257 - I Sold My Business, Now What?
✅ Ep. 258 - The King Green Journey: Growth, Family & Private Equity
✅ Ep. 259 - How to Reach Your Next Million
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
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PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
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Jan 29, 2026
Jan 29, 2026
42 min
This week, in Part 1 of 2 with Pest Control Business Coach, Sheri Spencer Bachman joins Dan and Donnie to discuss achieving your next million dollars in revenue. She covers the challenges firms face at key milestones, including making your first hire, defining your culture and core values and establishing systems and processes to break through to the next level.
Guest: Sheri Spencer Bachman, Pest Control Business Coach
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 22, 2026
Jan 22, 2026
36 min
Charlie King joins the podcast to discuss his experience building and eventually selling his lawn care company, King Green, to private equity firm Plexus in 2025. He shares challenges and lessons learned throughout his career and the exit process, including working with family, structuring the business, the decision to sell and building a brand.
Guest: Charlie King, Founder of King Green
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 15, 2026
Jan 15, 2026
40 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 8, 2026
Jan 8, 2026
38 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Jan 5, 2026
Jan 5, 2026
14 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind —
Recapping November! Episodes from December:
✅ Ep. 253 - X-RAI Call Analytics Dashboard - Explained
✅ Ep. 254 - Safety Training That Actually Works
✅ Ep. 255 - AI's Impact on Pest & Lawn Marketing
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Dec 18, 2025
Dec 18, 2025
44 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Dec 11, 2025
Dec 11, 2025
40 min
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Dec 8, 2025
Dec 8, 2025
10 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping November!
Episodes from October:
✅ Ep. 250 - Reflections on PestWorld & 250 Episodes
✅ Ep. 251 - When AI Picks the Pest or Lawn Company
✅ Ep. 252 - Why M&A Isn't Just For The Big Guys: Part 2
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts

Dec 4, 2025
Dec 4, 2025
37 min
This week, Voice for Pest's Raymond Kidwell joins Dan and Donnie to discuss X-Rai, a call analytics dashboard for pest control and lawn care businesses. He explains how the platform uses AI to prioritize leads and manage customer interactions based on data from more than 1 million calls per month, and he details its approach to AI agents.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Nov 20, 2025
Nov 20, 2025
42 min
Jeremy Ecker, CEO of Rest Easy Pest Control, joins the podcast to discuss his experience doing 16 M&A deals over 13 years, mostly self-funded and structured with earn-outs. Jeremy shares how he started as a bed bug canine inspection company and eventually pivoted to full-service pest control, and he details the challenges and opportunities of both acquisitions and organic growth.
Guest: Jeremy Ecker, CEO of Rest Easy Pest Control
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Nov 13, 2025
Nov 13, 2025
40 min
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Nov 6, 2025
Nov 6, 2025
36 min
This week, Dan and Donnie reflect on PestWorld 2025 and the podcast's 250th episode. They cover the buzz around the show in Orlando, including a rant about vendors who don't support the industry. They also reminisce about why they started the podcast and how it's evolved over five years — and thank their sponsors, guests and listeners for all the support.
Hosts:
Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Specialists
Donnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services

Nov 3, 2025
Nov 3, 2025
17 min
🎙️ Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping September!
Episodes from October: Ep. 245 - Building Business, Industry & Community with Audrey Hall
✅Ep. 246 - Empowering Pest Techs with Automated, Real-Time Data
✅Ep. 247 - Unlocking Profit with Tiered Pricing for Pest Control
✅Ep. 248 - Why M&A Isn't Just for the Big Guys
✅Ep. 249 - New Pest Control Industry Cost Study Data Revealed
A HUGE shout to our sponsors!
Coalmarch: Digital strategies and conversion-driven websites are waiting for you and it's time for a free month! Visit https://www.coalmarch.com/podcast to claim yours!
PestSure: Providing pest industry specific insurance for your business and insuring the future of pest control.
VoiceForPest: Designing and implementing unparalleled integrated voice solutions for home service companies of any size from coast to coast. https://www.voiceforpest.com/podcast/
We’d love to hear from you. Drop a comment, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @PMPIndustryInsider.
🎧 Listen On: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Google Podcasts
