
The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
Episodes

Apr 24, 2025
Apr 24, 2025
38 min
This week, Dan and Donnie continue the family business series with Mikey & Mandy Nolen, the father-daughter team who operate Nozzle Nolen in West Palm Beach, Fla. They cover how the company is transitioning to a new generation of leadership, including Mickey's philosophy of "getting out of the way without going away."

Apr 17, 2025
Apr 17, 2025
38 min
What if you had a CSR who could answer after-hours calls, schedule service and respond to questions 24/7/365? On this episode, Ka Tsu of Avoca AI joins Dan and Donnie to discuss an AI call center and customer service platform. Tune in to hear a Q&A about the benefits and challenges of implementing AI CSRs in pest control.

Apr 8, 2025
Apr 8, 2025
41 min

Apr 7, 2025
Apr 7, 2025
15 min
Welcome to Insiders Rewind — Recapping March!
This month, we’re diving into insights from Episodes 216 to 219, covering everything from Agent AI to tax strategies, growth challenges, and flipping business models for success!
Ep. 216: Agent AI Playbook for Service Business Owners — Discover how Agent AI works autonomously and integrates with your systems for true automation.
Ep. 217: Taxes 101 — Dan and Donnie share tax tips and how to avoid common pitfalls for pest and lawn business owners.
Ep. 218: The GreenPal Story — Brian Clayton explains why he built GreenPal for lawn care pros, not homeowners, and why it worked!
Ep. 219: Creating Cohesion — Donnie talks about managing team growth and navigating when great employees can’t keep up.
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Apr 3, 2025
Apr 3, 2025
37 min
In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss what you need to do month in and month out to create accurate financial statements so you can take meaningful action in your business. Donnie offers a glimpse into the numbers he uses to run Triangle Pest Control, and Dan shares an accountant's perspective and tools he recommends.

Mar 27, 2025
Mar 27, 2025
35 min
In this episode, Dan and Donnie dig into the challenges of managing growth and keeping your team on the same page as your pest or lawn company scales and becomes more complicated. They share their experiences and strategies for overcoming growth-related obstacles, and why having a strong vision is essential.

Mar 20, 2025
Mar 20, 2025
38 min

Mar 13, 2025
Mar 13, 2025
30 min

Mar 6, 2025
Mar 6, 2025
39 min
What if you could eliminate all your repetitive administrative tasks? In this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss the potential for leveraging "agent AI" technology in your pest control business. Donnie also walks through a software demo and shares how to begin creating an AI personal assistant so you can make better use of your time.

Mar 3, 2025
Mar 3, 2025
13 min
Welcome to Insiders Rewind, the new monthly recap series from the PMP Industry insider Podcast! In this episode, Brett The Editor, takes you through the most impactful moments from February's episodes.
Ep. #212 - A 7 Point Plan To Get Ready For The Season
Ep. #213 - 3 Takeaways From Beyond Service
Ep. #214 - 4 Pest Industry Trends For 2025
Ep. #215 - A Top 100 Turnaround
Whether you're in the pest & lawn industry or a business leader looking for growth strategies, Insiders Rewind delivers key insights you can implement right away!

Feb 27, 2025
Feb 27, 2025
41 min
The Bugman's Brian Olson joins Dan and Donnie to share how he turned around his Top 100 pest control business after struggling to achieve growth and profit goals. He shares the lessons he's learned by getting laser focused on KPIs in pursuit of becoming a customer- and team-centric firm with 80 percent recurring revenue.

Feb 20, 2025
Feb 20, 2025
41 min

Feb 13, 2025
Feb 13, 2025
38 min
This week, Dan shares his observations from WorkWave's Beyond Service user conference, which took place earlier this month. He covers can't-ignore topics from the event, including the ubiquity of artificial intelligence tools, an increased focus on key performance indicators and the mark private equity investors are making on the pest and lawn industries.

Feb 6, 2025
Feb 6, 2025
43 min
Industry veteran Patrick Quigley is back on the podcast to discuss how to prepare for the busy pest control season now. He shares a 7-point plan to overcome common challenges and set your team up for success.

Feb 3, 2025
Feb 3, 2025
16 min
Welcome to Insiders Rewind, the brand-new monthly recap series from the PMP Industry Insider Podcast! In this episode, Brett The Editor, takes you through the most impactful moments from January’s episodes.
Episodes Featured:
207: 2025 Marketing Trend Shifts w/Alex Booth
208: Recapping 2024 & Forecasting 2025 w/Dan and Donnie
209: The Long Game: Mastering Exit Planning w/Dan and Donnie
210: Passing the Torch Part 1 w/Charlie, Chaz & Carley Church
211: Passing the Torch Part 2 w/Howard and Conner Bright
Whether you're in the pest & lawn industry or a business leader looking for growth strategies, Insiders Rewind delivers key insights you can implement right away!

Jan 30, 2025
Jan 30, 2025
33 min
This week, Anti-Pesto's Howard Bright and Conner Bright join the show to discuss how they are transitioning the company to the next generation of leadership. They talk about the challenges and opportunities presented by the succession process with a focus on the importance of relationships, learning from others and transparency.
